1. I’ve been able to enjoy being clean and sober for the last 22 years using the AA program. Being an atheist, I would have run from it at the get-go if I was told belief in God was a pre-condition for membership. Since there aren’t any studies that can say definitively AA does or doesn’t work, I think your certainty is unfounded.

      The fact that the program is routinely perverted by the sick, immature people that need it is hardly surprising.

      I also found the video funny, disturbing and in very poor taste. Serves me right, I’ve been laughing at stuff that makes other people squirm my whole life…

      1. I would say that AA is a program. It helps some people stop abusing alcohol. It does not help some people stop abusing alcohol. It does tend to make some people substitute AA fanaticism for their former abuse of alcohol. While we are so glad that you have exchanged your self-destructive vice, it doesn’t mean some adherents to the program aren’t annoying sobriety fanatics. We are happy for you, is it really necessary to be addicted to talking about it? How about another 12-step program you could join to help with your addiction to steering topics of conversation to your on-going sobriety? Does “One Day at a Time” really help if you are constantly aware of your delicate state of powerlessness that the only control you have is to talk about how sober you are going to be right now, to me? If you don’t affirm your sobriety out loud, will that lapse you into temptation?

        AA is often represented as the only program available to help people to stop abusing alcohol. If you are arrested for an alcohol-related crime, or you are assessed to have an alcohol-abuse problem when applying for state financial assistance (i.e., answer yes to even 1 question out of 10), you will be required to attend AA meetings for the duration. Nobody is ever cured, even if they don’t really have a problem in the first place, and AA can reinforce someone as identifying as an addict when they aren’t one, a recovering alcoholic as long as they live – which is not always correct or helpful. They do not supply a matter of choice in the programs you could use to gain control of your problem – your only choice is the program that reinforces that you have no control, that meetings are your new booze, and talking about sobriety as much as possible in non-meeting social situations is the only charm you have to ward off temptations. Rather than diminish alcohol’s effect on you and given a realistic presence in the world around you, it is treated as a constant major threat foremost on your mind. I think a lot of people try to get something out of the meetings and are accused of not letting it work if they quit, and if they don’t go to AA, they don’t have anywhere else to go for help.

        AA has promoted itself as the only way to end alcohol abuse. It is not a bad program for everyone, but it is not an appealing or productive program for many people. It just shouldn’t be the only option if you are an alcoholic or are branded as one by a legal agency.

        I thought the clip was awesomely hilarious.

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