I think our society has become a bit hysterical about teen sexuality, and that age limits and punishments for statutory rape have, in some states, started to get a bit exteme even if such relationships are inappropriate.
But the undisputed facts of this case are that she was given booze and drugs and raped. There may be other procedural legal issues as I said, but I really can’t believe people are minimizing what happened. What is wrong with these people?
In a column published yesterday, Newsmax’s John L. Perry wrote that there is a “gaining” possibility that the military will stage a coup to “resolve the ‘Obama problem.'”
Newsmax has apparently removed the column from its site. Links are now redirected to the homepage, and Perry’s author page has no mention of his latest work. You can read the full text here.
The coup — which would be “civilized” and “bloodless,” according to Perry — would consist of a “patriotic general” sitting down with the President and working out a new system in which “skilled, military-trained, nation-builders” would “do the serious business of governing and defending the nation” while Obama would still be allowed to make speeches.
From Ddes on this thread:
We know about thousands of rapes that happened centuries ago. For one thing there’s documented evidence that many if not most slave owners were rapists. We don’t go after them or their descendants. Why? If you want to argue that their children aren’t the people they are, I would reply that I’m not the person I was ten years ago either, and in 30 years time I’ll certainly be more different from me at 25 than me at 25 is from my father at 25.
I really need to start doing drugs.
A creeping, wet, slithering scent, dripping with seaweed, oceanic plants and dark, unfathomable waters.
Things you might have heard about the woman Roman Polanski raped when she was a 13-year-old girl:
• She’s forgiven him.
• She doesn’t want the case pursued.
• Her mother was a fame-seeker who put her in the situation.
These are all things that aren’t relevant to any discussion of why or why not Polanski should be extradited to the US to face the charges he skipped out on thirty years ago—but the real stickler of the bunch seems to be that “she doesn’t want the case pursued” one, with the argument going something like: If even the girl he raped wants to let it go, why shouldn’t we?
The simple answer for that is because justice doesn’t operate on the principle of what’s best for the victim; it operates on the principle of what’s best for the community. (That’s why prosecutors represent “the people.”) Particularly in a case of sexual assault of a minor, there is additional pressure to prosecute, even if the victim(s) don’t support the prosecution, because interviews of convicted/admitted child rapists in prisons suggest that the rapist who only rapes once and never again has about as much supporting evidence for his existence as does the unicorn. (To wit: Roman Polanski’s ensuing relationship with then-15-year-old Nastassja Kinski.) Some of those who understand this principle nonetheless argue that Polanski is now an “old man,” as if old men don’t rape. Unfortunately, they can and they do.