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  1. Well…. I wouldn’t call it “unjust” … it IS their choice and you can’t really FORCE someone to sell something….

    It’s not a crime.

    It IS a goddamned shame, though.

  2. I agree with Ghoast that it is a shame, but as a business owner, I would not want to be told what I can and cannot sell.
    More money for the businesses that want to sell I guess.

  3. Typical, just typical of something coming from the south…seriously I’m getting pretty
    tired of all the bullshit coming from down there, what is happening? can someone tell me why people are so stuck up down there? why its always there that there is problem? Including the slaves, and religion, and electing rednecks as president, your country is going down, I’m sorry but there is something definitly wrong with the United States

  4. I’m 22, in menopause, and on the pill to prevent osteoporosis. If these people had any real medical training, they’d know hormone pills aren’t just for “killing babies in the womb”.

    These people are hacks and they need to be stopped.

  5. Apart from being shameful and moronic, the pharmacy’s policy doesn’t make any damn sense on its face. WTF does contraception have to do with abortion? Short of using a condom or an IUD to physically flog an embryo, birth control can’t “kill a fetus” any more than abstinence can. And to the moronic twit who doesn’t want to shop in stores that sell things that “could be used for abortions”: Do they sell wire coat-hangers at your Wal-Mart?

    Obama’s gonna win, but this nation’s still fucked.

  6. By not providing birth control the pharmacy may actually help increase the number of abortions in the area due to unwanted pregnancy. What does Pro-Life mean anyway? What about the people that are already born? Don’t they matter? We can say it is good to send soldiers to die in a needless war, but abortion is murder? I guess they just want people to breed to make soldiers for their wars. Praise the Lord, pass the ammunition, and do it bareback.

  7. Ghoast, Michelle – but this is health care. They are witholding health care, and knowledge, from their community. It’s not fashion, or the latest consumer gadget, it’s a human being’s inalienable right to educated choices.

  8. Hold it. What pharmacy is this?

    They interview Bob Laird, and it says he’s the executive director of DMC pharmacy. The sign on the wall behind him says “DMC Pharmacy”.

    So why did the news show decide to include an exterior shot of a CVS Pharmacy? Unless that CVS is the pharmacy they’re actually talking about, that’s horribly misleading.

  9. We get to thank the Bush administration for this one. I’m not happy with this, I wish it was illegal.

    My reason for taking birth control is between my doctor and I. For all you know I could have a 22 day long period and I need this hormone for my general health. I could have debilitating cramps that would otherwise require prescription painkillers that could deform my baby should I end up pregnant. I could have a hormone imbalance and I need to take the pill now to ensure my future fertility. You don’t know! And it’s not your business to know!

    My doctor wrote me a prescription for a reason. You are not privy to that reason. If you have knowledge that it could interact with my other medications then tell me, but you’re not here to police my life! Are you going to deny my me my bloodpressure medication as well because it could cause me to miscarry? Or are you just going to single out Ogestrel because it makes you feel like you’re “doing the right thing”?

    As a pharmacist this is your job. If you can’t do your job, get another one… just like people who can’t shoot another person shouldn’t be soldiers and people who can’t put down animals shouldn’t be vets.

    You always hear people trashing contraception, but I’ve never heard a whisper about fertility clinics that dispose of thousands of unused embryos.

  10. This reminds me of an article I read recently (I’d try to find a related link but I’m too damn tired at the moment). It was about Muslim medical students studying in Britain, and I can’t remember whether they were native-born or from out of the country, but it really doesn’t matter.

    Anyway, these doctors-in-the-making were raising all kinds of hell regarding the reproductive system. You see, it violates their religion to discuss and/or view such naughty things and pee-pees and hoo-hoos. So they seem to think that it’s entirely reasonable to request that they be exempted from studying such filth. So much for a well-rounded education. And this is happening in the TWENTY-FIRST CENTURY, people!

    I hope I’m wrong, but religion will probably kill us all before everything is said and done.

  11. Like Piri says, there are so many reasons for these items. When I was younger I had my period for almost 6 months straight, and although I didn’t need to go on the pill because it stopped itself eventually, should that really be something I would have needed to go to a specific pharmacy to treat?

    Furthermore, this means that they happily sell could syrups etc. that can be combined to make dangerous drugs, but they won’t sell condoms. That’s funny.

  12. As much as I dislike the idea of stores being told what they can and can’t sell I fear that not offering contraceptives may become a trend in the area. When they become difficult items to find it becomes a problem. I’d hope something comes in to take up the slack in such an event, it’d definitely be a situation worth watching.

  13. I believe this is part of a Bush putsch to consider all contraceptives as a form of abortion. Basically, they think that if you indulge in sex, you should have to pay the price of getting pregnant.

    Maybe we should have let the South secede.

  14. Poop! Poop I say! Don’t lump us all in with those fucktards!

    Visit Houston! We have condoms!

    This message brought to you by the Houston Tourism Board.

  15. Can you tell this is something that makes me mad?
    The last time I switched doctors I asked the receptionist if the doctor would prescribe me birth control. Even if I wasn’t married or in a relationship I would still be on the pill because it improves my quality of life that much. The thought that someone would withhold MY medication from me because of THEIR lifestyle just makes me hot under the collar!

  16. I’m not a fan of telling business owners they have to provide a given product or service, but (1) they seek a license from the state anyhow and (2) health care is not the same as any other business. It’s a good thing that Chantilly, VA isn’t rural, and a young woman who needs emergency contraceptives can reasonably get a prescription filled elsewhere. There’s a way to address this. Require hospitals and pharmacists that are the only sources for serve large, sparsely populated areas to provide such services if they want to be licensed. Allow the nutbar pharmacies in areas where women have other options.

    Charles, you’re kidding yourself if you think this is a southern thing. For starters, Chantilly is in northern Virginia just west of D.C. and fairly liberal. Moreover, pharmacists in a bunch of places, including Washington state, are allowed to refuse prescriptions on religious grounds.

  17. If you morally object to what your job requires you to do; get another job.

    If you believe that women are inferior and don’t deserve to be taught, that’s fine. It’s your prerogative and I won’t impose on it. It also means that you can’t teach. Find a job that doesn’t require you to violate your ethical code.

    Nobody is MAKING random people off the street sell drugs that they don’t agree with. But once they accept that job, they should be required to do it. End of story.

  18. Look, I’m fine with contriceptives, but a private business can sell what they want, they are under no obligation beyond the market that they are going for, if they don’t believe in it as an owner then they don’t have to do anything.

    Its called America, you can’t force business owners to sell what they don’t want to.

  19. Its called America, you can’t force business owners to sell what they don’t want to.

    You can certainly refuse to licence pharmacists who refuse to fulfil their function, though.

    AngrySam has got it right, I reckon: where there are alternative providers, this kind of behaviour is distasteful but tolerable. Where the pharmacist is the only supplier in the region, there is a duty to perform the full functions of the office.

  20. I agree entirely with outeast. If they want a license from the state they need to fulfill basic obligations. That should be dispensing any drugs that can be legally prescribed by a doctor. I don’t see how we can force them to stock condoms, but those can be mandated to be freely distributed from public health offices if needed.

  21. Its called America, you can’t force business owners to sell what they don’t want to.

    This isn’t the grocery store. Healthcare has a different set of rules from other businesses in America.

    Also, the majority of these cases are not business owners saying “this will be a contraceptive free establishment.” It’s individual pharmacists saying “I can’t dispense this prescription to you because it goes against my religious beliefs.”

    Do you think this is something the law should protect? Obviously you have grounds to sue if you’re fired or passed up for a promotion because of your race, sex, or religion. Should you also be protected if your personal beliefs (be they religious or moral) prevent you from fulfilling your duties in the position you were hired for?

    Again, specific medications are prescribed for dozens of different medical reasons. As a pharmacist you don’t know that reason. Just like you should always assume a gun is loaded, a pharmacist should assume a filled and properly measured prescription is needed for that customer to continue LIVING.

  22. You can’t stamp out the practice of abortion by taking away birth control. How obvious can it be?

    But there’s another road I hope we aren’t going down. Roe vs. Wade legalized abortion in the early 70s. Abortion providers flourished for a while after that. In about ten years, pro-life forces started having success with a different tactic. Social pressure turned from demonizing sex (as much) to demonizing the doctors, organizations, and businesses that provided abortions. Business became so difficult that they dried up. Now abortion is legal on paper, but not really accessible to women in many parts of the country because they have to travel hours, maybe even to another state, to get one.

    If social pressure is put on other pharmacies in this community to stop selling birth control drugs, we could be heading down the same road.

  23. I have to add something. LEGAL abortions are inaccessible to many women. There are unlicensed and clandestine arrangements available where medical facilities are not. And that’s what we were fighting in the first place.

  24. According to pro-lifers, life starts at CONCEPTION, right?

    So what do condoms have to do with killing babies??
    They PREVENT conception.

  25. But the problem with what you’re saying, Armand, is that you’re using that darned pesky LOGIC again! Stop doing that! It makes the fundies’ heads hurt!

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